Text Chat System
Hiya! I was just wondering if there is any documentation at all about how to make a text chat system in NormCore using custom models?
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While the provided knowledge sources do not directly cover the creation of a text chat system using Normcore, they do provide some relevant information on how to synchronize custom data using RealtimeModel, which could be used to create a text chat system.
A RealtimeModel represents a collection of states to synchronize. Each field in the model is required to be a primitive type, designed to synchronize data that can be easily serialized and transmitted to other clients. For a text chat system, you might create a RealtimeModel that includes a string property for the message text and an integer or string property for the sender ID.
Here's an example of what a simple chat message model might look like:
In this model, would hold the text of the chat message, and could hold some identifier for the sender of the message.
You can find more information on how to use RealtimeModel in practice in the Synchronizing custom data (https://normcore.io/documentation/realtime/synchronizing-custom-data) guide.
Please note that this is a simplified example and a real implementation would likely need to consider additional factors, such as handling multiple messages and updating the chat in real-time for all users.
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While the provided knowledge sources do not directly cover the creation of a text chat system using Normcore, they do provide some relevant information on how to synchronize custom data using RealtimeModel, which could be used to create a text chat system.
A RealtimeModel represents a collection of states to synchronize. Each field in the model is required to be a primitive type, designed to synchronize data that can be easily serialized and transmitted to other clients. For a text chat system, you might create a RealtimeModel that includes a string property for the message text and an integer or string property for the sender ID.
Here's an example of what a simple chat message model might look like:
In this model, would hold the text of the chat message, and could hold some identifier for the sender of the message.
You can find more information on how to use RealtimeModel in practice in the Synchronizing custom data (https://normcore.io/documentation/realtime/synchronizing-custom-data) guide.
Please note that this is a simplified example and a real implementation would likely need to consider additional factors, such as handling multiple messages and updating the chat in real-time for all users.
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H@Normcore Assistant As it is not possible to instantiate objects as a child to a parent object in Normcore. How would you instantiate a TextMeshPro object?
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While it's true that Normcore does not support reparenting of objects with RealtimeView or RealtimeComponent, it doesn't prevent you from instantiating objects as children of other objects. The limitation is that the parent-child relationship will not be synchronized across the network.
To instantiate a TextMeshPro object, you would typically do so in Unity as you would with any other GameObject. However, if you want to synchronize properties of the TextMeshPro object across the network, you would need to create a custom RealtimeModel that includes a field for each property of the TextMeshPro object that you want to synchronize.
Here's an example of what a model for a TextMeshPro object might look like:
In this model, would hold the text of the TextMeshPro object, and could hold the color of the text.
Once you have your model, you can create a RealtimeComponent subclass that uses your model and updates the TextMeshPro object accordingly. You can find more information on how to do this in the Synchronizing custom data (https://normcore.io/documentation/realtime/synchronizing-custom-data) guide.
Please note that this is a simplified example and a real implementation would likely need to consider additional factors, such as handling updates to the TextMeshPro object in real-time for all users.
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While it's true that Normcore does not support reparenting of objects with RealtimeView or RealtimeComponent, it doesn't prevent you from instantiating objects as children of other objects. The limitation is that the parent-child relationship will not be synchronized across the network.
To instantiate a TextMeshPro object, you would typically do so in Unity as you would with any other GameObject. However, if you want to synchronize properties of the TextMeshPro object across the network, you would need to create a custom RealtimeModel that includes a field for each property of the TextMeshPro object that you want to synchronize.
Here's an example of what a model for a TextMeshPro object might look like:
In this model, would hold the text of the TextMeshPro object, and could hold the color of the text.
Once you have your model, you can create a RealtimeComponent subclass that uses your model and updates the TextMeshPro object accordingly. You can find more information on how to do this in the Synchronizing custom data (https://normcore.io/documentation/realtime/synchronizing-custom-data) guide.
Please note that this is a simplified example and a real implementation would likely need to consider additional factors, such as handling updates to the TextMeshPro object in real-time for all users.
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H@Normcore Assistant Ah right so I can Instantiate the text mesh pro objects at runtime but to have them synchronised across the network I need to use a custom model as well?
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Yes, that's correct. In Normcore, you can instantiate any GameObject, including TextMeshPro objects, at runtime in Unity as you normally would. However, if you want to synchronize the state of these objects across the network, you would need to use a custom RealtimeModel.
A RealtimeModel in Normcore represents a collection of states to synchronize. Each field in the model should be a primitive type (
Here's an example of what a model for a TextMeshPro object might look like:
In this model, would hold the text of the TextMeshPro object, and could hold the color of the text.
Once you have your model, you can create a RealtimeComponent subclass that uses your model and updates the TextMeshPro object accordingly. You can find more information on how to do this in the Synchronizing custom data (https://normcore.io/documentation/realtime/synchronizing-custom-data) guide.
Please note that this is a simplified example and a real implementation would likely need to consider additional factors, such as handling updates to the TextMeshPro object in real-time for all users.
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Yes, that's correct. In Normcore, you can instantiate any GameObject, including TextMeshPro objects, at runtime in Unity as you normally would. However, if you want to synchronize the state of these objects across the network, you would need to use a custom RealtimeModel.
A RealtimeModel in Normcore represents a collection of states to synchronize. Each field in the model should be a primitive type (
intstringHere's an example of what a model for a TextMeshPro object might look like:
In this model, would hold the text of the TextMeshPro object, and could hold the color of the text.
Once you have your model, you can create a RealtimeComponent subclass that uses your model and updates the TextMeshPro object accordingly. You can find more information on how to do this in the Synchronizing custom data (https://normcore.io/documentation/realtime/synchronizing-custom-data) guide.
Please note that this is a simplified example and a real implementation would likely need to consider additional factors, such as handling updates to the TextMeshPro object in real-time for all users.
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H@Normcore Assistant Follow up question. When I instantiated a TextMeshPro object with Realtime View component attached to it. The text disappears. Any idea why?
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The issue you're experiencing could be due to a few reasons. Here are some possibilities based on the provided knowledge sources:
The issue you're experiencing could be due to a few reasons. Here are some possibilities based on the provided knowledge sources:
- RealtimeComponent's model remains null: The model is set by Realtime when you connect to the room. This will only fail if Realtime doesn't receive a reference to the RealtimeComponent. This can happen if the model was instantiated with Unity’s Instantiate API ( or ) instead of Normcore’s
. If you're passing a prefab reference instead of a prefab string, then you're using the wrong one. Make sure to call . Also, ensure that the model setter has been correctly implemented. Source (https://normcore.io/documentation/realtime/common-questions#why-would-a-realtimecomponents-model-remain-null)Realtime.Instantiate() - RealtimeView doesn't have a model yet: If you’re dealing with a prefab, all views and components are initialized with their models. They will be ready to work with by the time
is called on any script on the prefab.Start()
must be called by Unity before Normcore can initialize any components on the game object. If you’re dealing with a RealtimeView that exists in a scene file, you’ll need to wait untilAwake()
, or therealtime.connected == true
event has fired. Source (https://normcore.io/documentation/realtime/common-questions#why-do-i-get-the-error-this-view-doesnt-have-a-model-yet-wait-until-the-model-is-present-before-interacting-with-the-ownership-when-interacting-with-realtimeview)didConnectToRoom
K- Custom RealtimeComponent isn't syncing: You might have added your custom component to a game object before it was converted to a RealtimeComponent subclass. To verify this, look at the RealtimeView's list of components and make sure you see your custom component in the list. If you don't see it, or a RealtimeView has not been created for you automatically, try removing the component and re-adding it to your game object. Source (https://normcore.io/documentation/realtime/synchronizing-custom-data#my-custom-realtimecomponent-isnt-syncing-and-onrealtimemodelreplaced-doesnt-get-called)
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HAlright so it sounds like the model should solve all my problems.. let's give it a try
HOk so according to kapa it should be working with a model, but I still have the text disappearing on me. Anyone has an idea how to fix it?
Mdo you mean the string is set but it's invisible?
Mthe reason for that is textmeshpro objects only render when they are children of a canvas
Myou'll need to reparent the object after realtime instantiating
HSo I rewrote my code so I don't need to instantiate the TextMeshPro objects I just change the text within. When I don't have the Realtime Transform and View components added to the TextMeshPro objects it works.. when I add these components the text changes but is not visible on sceen.. I also made a custom model but that did not change a thing.
Mshow us a screenshot
Hwill do.. just a sec
Hon the right you can see in the list I have added 2 messages..(by the way they are visible for one frame when pressing enter). I will add another screenshot so you can see how the text objects are made. Only thing I can think of now what it could be is that I am calling the sync model from the Game Manager instead of the text objects. I am calling it from the Game Manager as it is a singleton and will be persistent within scenes
Hinspector of the textmesh object
H@Mechabit
Mcan't you just append the string onto that text box?
Mif you add \n to the end it'll start a new line
HI could, but I still need a realtime view on that textbox to get it synced right? And right now if I add that to the textObject , the textObject does not show up (or only briefly 1 frame)
HI mean the text within the object
Myou only need the view on the object that contains the realtime component
Mis global chat doing the syncing?
Hglobalchatsync is doing the syncing
Mshow us the code
Husing System.Collections;
using System.Collections.Generic;
using UnityEngine;
using TMPro;
using Normal.Realtime;
public class GlobalChatSync : RealtimeComponent<GlobalChatSyncModel>
{
private TMPro.TMP_Text chatText;
private string _text;
private void Awake()
{
chatText = GetComponent<TMPro.TMP_Text>();
}
protected override void OnRealtimeModelReplaced(GlobalChatSyncModel previousModel, GlobalChatSyncModel currentModel)
{
if (previousModel != null)
{
// Unregister from events
previousModel.textDidChange -= TextDidChange;
}
if (currentModel != null)
{
if (currentModel.isFreshModel)
currentModel.text = chatText.text;
UpdateChatText();
currentModel.textDidChange += TextDidChange;
}
}
private void TextDidChange(GlobalChatSyncModel model, string text)
{
UpdateChatText();
}
private void UpdateChatText()
{
chatText.text = model.text;
}
public void SetText(string text)
{
model.text = text;
}
}
using System.Collections.Generic;
using UnityEngine;
using TMPro;
using Normal.Realtime;
public class GlobalChatSync : RealtimeComponent<GlobalChatSyncModel>
{
private TMPro.TMP_Text chatText;
private string _text;
private void Awake()
{
chatText = GetComponent<TMPro.TMP_Text>();
}
protected override void OnRealtimeModelReplaced(GlobalChatSyncModel previousModel, GlobalChatSyncModel currentModel)
{
if (previousModel != null)
{
// Unregister from events
previousModel.textDidChange -= TextDidChange;
}
if (currentModel != null)
{
if (currentModel.isFreshModel)
currentModel.text = chatText.text;
UpdateChatText();
currentModel.textDidChange += TextDidChange;
}
}
private void TextDidChange(GlobalChatSyncModel model, string text)
{
UpdateChatText();
}
private void UpdateChatText()
{
chatText.text = model.text;
}
public void SetText(string text)
{
model.text = text;
}
}
HSorry trying to get it to show up as code
Mand the text is there but invisible or it's blank?
Hit shows up briefly for one frame... it is not blank.. it is there.. just not visible... you can also see it briefly when changing screen size in the editor... when you drag it.. is shows up flickering.. so it seems like it just updates once and does not persist.
MI don't think you need the realtime transform
HOh I think it was mandatory
Mit's probably going to 0,0,0
HOk I will give it a try. Thanks for helping out! 
HOMG YES! You genius!!!!