Normal•4w ago

it looks like in your repro, you have "Clear Ownership When Sleeping" set on the RealtimeTransform,

it looks like in your repro, you have "Clear Ownership When Sleeping" set on the RealtimeTransform, and there's a rigidbody. Our tests are showing that ownership is working but then it's getting instantly cleared because the Rigidbody is asleep.

Mmaxweisel it looks like in your repro, you have "Clear Ownership When Sleeping" set on the...

Mechabit•11/22/25, 2:18 AM

these are floating cubes though, they should only sleep when they hit the ground

maxweiselOP•11/22/25, 2:49 AM

you make need to wake them when you request ownership

Mechabit•11/22/25, 3:31 AM

ok but it works as expected if you wait a bit and then request ownership without using wake up

Mechabit•11/22/25, 3:31 AM

seems inconsistent

maxweiselOP•11/22/25, 3:33 AM

I expect it may have something to do with FixedUpdate getting to run once for the Rigidbody before you RequestOwnership, but I’ll have our team take a closer look

Mechabit•11/22/25, 3:35 AM

could also be fixed with a request ownership on fresh model option someone else suggested

maxweiselOP•11/22/25, 2:42 PM

I don’t think I understand that piece, how does that fix the timing issue you’re seeing?

Mechabit•11/22/25, 2:47 PM

if the RT were owned by the first person in the room then I wouldn't need to request ownership myself

cryptomax•11/22/25, 5:56 PM

Yeah I thought I remember discussing this a while back and it was being considered to be put in. We currently jump through various hoops to fix this as well since we always have tons of RB in play

MMechabit these are floating cubes though, they should only sleep when they hit the ground

maxweiselOP•11/25/25, 4:16 PM

I was wrong and we found a bug related to your repro. thank you again for putting that together. It took us a bit to repro the issue, but we're working on a fix for you

Soggywater•11/27/25, 7:18 AM

Hi! I’m new to Unity and new to networking in general, and I chose Normcore because I’ve heard it’s great for VR. I’m still struggling to understand parts of the documentation, so I’m hoping someone can point me in the right direction or help me understand how to structure this system.

Here’s what I’m trying to build:

When the player launches the game, they first spawn in an offline “Home World.” From here there are two UI buttons:

Join Random Public
Join By Code

Join Random Public
• The game should look for available public rooms.
• A room is available if:
• It exists
• It has at least 1 player
• It has less than 8 players
• Rooms with 0 players should automatically disappear / not be considered.
• If an available room is found → join it.
• If no available rooms exist (none created, all full, no players online, etc.) → create a new public room.
• Every room has a unique 6-digit code so other players can join the same room later.

Join By Code
• Clicking this opens a VR keyboard.
• The player types a 6-digit code (example: 123456).
• If a room with that code exists and has less than 8 players, join it.
• If the room exists but is full → show an error (“Max capacity reached”).
• If the room doesn’t exist → create it private/public (whichever Normcore requires) using that exact code.
I’m extremely new to all this and am a solo developer. I’ve been struggling for weeks trying to set up things like fusion and pun but finally figured out that this is actually a much better solution. However I’m still highly confused and any and all help is highly appreciated

Soggywater•11/27/25, 7:18 AM

And yes, I did use ChatGPT to make this a little bit easier to understand

Mechabit•11/27/25, 7:36 AM

Random public isn't something that's built in, yet

Mechabit•11/27/25, 7:36 AM

you'll have to use a lobby system like unity lobby for that

Soggywater•11/27/25, 10:09 AM

Thanks for the input although I don’t have the slightest idea of what you’re talking about any sort of basic coding I can handle but networking and multiplayer is just voodoo magic for me. This is my first game so I’ve never used it before and I have literally zero reference, I’ve been struggling with this for weeks now trying to find different solutions until about five days ago when I found this

Mechabit•11/27/25, 10:17 AM

might be a bit advanced then

Mechabit•11/27/25, 10:17 AM

just start with basic join codes you share on messaging apps

Mechabit•11/27/25, 10:25 AM

unity has a game lobby sample project here https://docs.unity.com/ugs/en-us/manual/lobby/manual/game-lobby-sample

Game lobby sample

Mechabit•11/27/25, 10:25 AM

but honestly it's overly complicated

Mechabit•11/27/25, 10:26 AM

you can wait for a normcore solution but there's no date for that

Soggywater•11/27/25, 12:10 PM

Dude, you’re actually amazing. Thank you so much man still have no idea what I’m doing, but thank you for putting in the time in effort to help.

Soggywater•11/27/25, 12:14 PM

Also, one more thing I think the best way to do this would be to make it in chunks building off of that each time so for example, the first thing I would want to do is literally just have it so when I start the game, it will connect me to a room with another player

alexlalles•11/27/25, 2:10 PM

How would you hide the App key in a secure way? without having a backend server. I noticed that the Appkey is often quite vulnerable to rip. Its just a real time component with a app key attached to it. So i was thinking of using tempTokens via Playfab, but its quite complicated. So any other work-arounds to protect it? I plan on having the game on Steam VR. Thanks.

Aalexlalles How would you hide the App key in a secure way? without having a backend server....

alexlalles•11/27/25, 2:12 PM

and for the Playfab part, I'm referring to cloud scripts via Revisions (legacy). its the most secure way i found without having a backend server.

Aalexlalles and for the Playfab part, I'm referring to cloud scripts via Revisions (legacy)....

Mechabit•11/27/25, 2:22 PM

sounds fine

maxweiselOP•11/27/25, 3:21 PM

@Soggywater could be worth looking at our GorillaTemplate. It has room codes and things already: https://github.com/NormalVR/GorillaTemplate

GitHub

GitHub - NormalVR/GorillaTemplate: Everything you need to make your...

Everything you need to make your own multiplayer VR game - NormalVR/GorillaTemplate

Aalexlalles How would you hide the App key in a secure way? without having a backend server....

maxweiselOP•11/27/25, 3:22 PM

which version of Normcore are you on? we strip it from the scriptable object in builds and encrypt it

Soggywater•11/27/25, 3:22 PM

What do you mean which version?

Soggywater•11/27/25, 3:25 PM

Also, yeah, I do think I could benefit from using the template I might be able to Jerry rig it together with what I’m trying to do however it’s not a gorilla tag type of game so we’ll see how that works out

Mmaxweisel which version of Normcore are you on? we strip it from the scriptable object in ...

alexlalles•11/27/25, 4:26 PM

ah gotcha, my mistake then. I'm on Normcore 2. I wasn't sure if that happens or not. Thanks

solar•11/29/25, 12:36 PM

any news on easysync?

solar•11/29/25, 12:36 PM

been waiting for its release cus i hateeeeee making realtimemodels

Mechabit•11/29/25, 12:54 PM

you can just make a set of basic models and reuse them everywhere

maxweiselOP•11/29/25, 5:31 PM

it’s coming out with Normcore 3, which we’re planning to announce before the end of the year.

maxweiselOP•11/29/25, 5:32 PM

I keep trying to cram a few small things into the release and I’ve been so slow to write all of the docs

maxweiselOP•11/29/25, 5:32 PM

but we’re very close I promise

Noa Witt•11/29/25, 9:24 PM

I’m hyped for the full lobby system whenever that comes out even if it’s a year or two out

maxweiselOP•11/29/25, 9:52 PM

We’ll have a basic version in the Normcore 3 release, and a full featured version coming next year.

cryptomax•12/2/25, 12:22 AM

"All I want for Christmas is my norm-core threeeeee........

Cam•12/2/25, 12:23 AM

That would be a fun holiday present hahah. But I'm content with time being taken towards it to make it as good as possible. Honestly even if it's just small wins across the board I'd be happy