Normal•5w ago

Requesting ownership of Realtime Transforms during realtime.connectedToRoom doesn't seem to do anyth

Requesting ownership of Realtime Transforms during realtime.connectedToRoom doesn't seem to do anything.
Yielding 1 frame does work though.
Can you make didConnectToRoom fire 1 frame later?

MechabitOP•11/17/25, 9:41 AM

In offline mode it works on the same frame

MechabitOP•11/17/25, 9:41 AM

I think this tripped me up last project as well

MechabitOP•11/17/25, 9:41 AM

I keep forgetting cos I assume it will work

MechabitOP•11/17/25, 9:58 AM

actually yielding till end of frame is enough to make it work

MechabitOP•11/17/25, 9:59 AM

can you make didConnectToRoom fire after all the models and stuff has been updated like with the new didChange event

maxweisel•11/17/25, 3:46 PM

any chance you can repro this in a blank project for me? didConnectToRoom fires after all models are updated. this sounds like a bug that may require another piece of configuration to trigger

MechabitOP•11/17/25, 4:01 PM

this works:

MechabitOP•11/17/25, 4:02 PM

this doesn't work

MechabitOP•11/17/25, 4:02 PM

on unity 6.2.6f2

MechabitOP•11/17/25, 4:03 PM

though it happened on 6.0 as well

MechabitOP•11/17/25, 4:03 PM

on the latest version of normcore

maxweisel•11/17/25, 4:04 PM

Can you send this to me in a blank Unity project? I’ll pass it onto the team

MechabitOP•11/17/25, 4:21 PM

testing it now it's like 50/50 if it works or not

maxweisel•11/17/25, 4:24 PM

Can you send this to me in a blank Unity project? I’ll pass it onto the team

Alix Ollivier•11/18/25, 2:58 PM

If I want to move to the Normcore 3 40-player lobbies, will that likely tank my framerate?

We're considering ditching quest 2 immediately when Normcore 3 comes out, given that we're struggling to keep up the framerate on that headset already.

maxweisel•11/18/25, 3:33 PM

It really depends on how expensive your avatars are. If you put 40 of them in a typical scene, are you able to make framerate?

Alix Ollivier•11/18/25, 4:41 PM

will test. No CPU considerations?

maxweisel•11/18/25, 5:29 PM

depends on your avatars. some avatars use a ton of CPU, but CPU on the Normcore 3 side hasn't been the bottleneck

maxweisel•11/18/25, 5:30 PM

40 avatars essentially 40x's the CPU/GPU work that your avatar uses currently which pushes a lot of folks over the edge before we even get to Normcore serialization work

Soggywater•11/21/25, 4:41 AM

hay so im new to unity vr game development and wha trying multiplayer for the first time and i cant seem to progress until i do it im in dire need of some help im thinking of useing normcore iv been told its easy to use any and all help is highly appreciated thank you

MechabitOP•11/21/25, 4:43 AM

yep, super easy to use

MechabitOP•11/21/25, 4:44 AM

if you can follow this color sync tutorial you've learnt every there is to know about normcore https://docs.normcore.io/guides/synchronizing-custom-data#realtime-components

Synchronizing Custom Data | Normcore Documentation

In this guide, I’m going to walk you through how to synchronize custom data in your Unity application using custom realtime components.

MechabitOP•11/21/25, 4:48 AM

Also this one for XR games https://docs.normcore.io/guides/xr-avatars-and-voice-chat

XR Avatars and Voice Chat | Normcore Documentation

This guide walks you through adding avatars and voice chat to your XR application.

MechabitOP•11/21/25, 4:49 AM

note that the avatar shouldn't contain an xr rig which a lot of people forget when they start out

MMechabit testing it now it's like 50/50 if it works or not

maxweisel•11/21/25, 5:54 PM

it looks like in your repro, you have "Clear Ownership When Sleeping" set on the RealtimeTransform, and there's a rigidbody. Our tests are showing that ownership is working but then it's getting instantly cleared because the Rigidbody is asleep.

Mmaxweisel it looks like in your repro, you have "Clear Ownership When Sleeping" set on the...

MechabitOP•11/22/25, 2:18 AM

these are floating cubes though, they should only sleep when they hit the ground

maxweisel•11/22/25, 2:49 AM

you make need to wake them when you request ownership

MechabitOP•11/22/25, 3:31 AM

ok but it works as expected if you wait a bit and then request ownership without using wake up

MechabitOP•11/22/25, 3:31 AM

seems inconsistent

maxweisel•11/22/25, 3:33 AM

I expect it may have something to do with FixedUpdate getting to run once for the Rigidbody before you RequestOwnership, but I’ll have our team take a closer look

MechabitOP•11/22/25, 3:35 AM

could also be fixed with a request ownership on fresh model option someone else suggested

maxweisel•11/22/25, 2:42 PM

I don’t think I understand that piece, how does that fix the timing issue you’re seeing?

MechabitOP•11/22/25, 2:47 PM

if the RT were owned by the first person in the room then I wouldn't need to request ownership myself

cryptomax•11/22/25, 5:56 PM

Yeah I thought I remember discussing this a while back and it was being considered to be put in. We currently jump through various hoops to fix this as well since we always have tons of RB in play

MMechabit these are floating cubes though, they should only sleep when they hit the ground

maxweisel•11/25/25, 4:16 PM

I was wrong and we found a bug related to your repro. thank you again for putting that together. It took us a bit to repro the issue, but we're working on a fix for you

Soggywater•11/27/25, 7:18 AM

Hi! I’m new to Unity and new to networking in general, and I chose Normcore because I’ve heard it’s great for VR. I’m still struggling to understand parts of the documentation, so I’m hoping someone can point me in the right direction or help me understand how to structure this system.

Here’s what I’m trying to build:

When the player launches the game, they first spawn in an offline “Home World.” From here there are two UI buttons:

Join Random Public
Join By Code

Join Random Public
• The game should look for available public rooms.
• A room is available if:
• It exists
• It has at least 1 player
• It has less than 8 players
• Rooms with 0 players should automatically disappear / not be considered.
• If an available room is found → join it.
• If no available rooms exist (none created, all full, no players online, etc.) → create a new public room.
• Every room has a unique 6-digit code so other players can join the same room later.

Join By Code
• Clicking this opens a VR keyboard.
• The player types a 6-digit code (example: 123456).
• If a room with that code exists and has less than 8 players, join it.
• If the room exists but is full → show an error (“Max capacity reached”).
• If the room doesn’t exist → create it private/public (whichever Normcore requires) using that exact code.
I’m extremely new to all this and am a solo developer. I’ve been struggling for weeks trying to set up things like fusion and pun but finally figured out that this is actually a much better solution. However I’m still highly confused and any and all help is highly appreciated

Soggywater•11/27/25, 7:18 AM

And yes, I did use ChatGPT to make this a little bit easier to understand

MechabitOP•11/27/25, 7:36 AM

Random public isn't something that's built in, yet

MechabitOP•11/27/25, 7:36 AM

you'll have to use a lobby system like unity lobby for that

Soggywater•11/27/25, 10:09 AM

Thanks for the input although I don’t have the slightest idea of what you’re talking about any sort of basic coding I can handle but networking and multiplayer is just voodoo magic for me. This is my first game so I’ve never used it before and I have literally zero reference, I’ve been struggling with this for weeks now trying to find different solutions until about five days ago when I found this

MechabitOP•11/27/25, 10:17 AM

might be a bit advanced then

MechabitOP•11/27/25, 10:17 AM

just start with basic join codes you share on messaging apps

MechabitOP•11/27/25, 10:25 AM

unity has a game lobby sample project here https://docs.unity.com/ugs/en-us/manual/lobby/manual/game-lobby-sample

Game lobby sample

MechabitOP•11/27/25, 10:25 AM

but honestly it's overly complicated

MechabitOP•11/27/25, 10:26 AM

you can wait for a normcore solution but there's no date for that

Soggywater•11/27/25, 12:10 PM

Dude, you’re actually amazing. Thank you so much man still have no idea what I’m doing, but thank you for putting in the time in effort to help.

Soggywater•11/27/25, 12:14 PM

Also, one more thing I think the best way to do this would be to make it in chunks building off of that each time so for example, the first thing I would want to do is literally just have it so when I start the game, it will connect me to a room with another player

alexlalles•11/27/25, 2:10 PM

How would you hide the App key in a secure way? without having a backend server. I noticed that the Appkey is often quite vulnerable to rip. Its just a real time component with a app key attached to it. So i was thinking of using tempTokens via Playfab, but its quite complicated. So any other work-arounds to protect it? I plan on having the game on Steam VR. Thanks.

Aalexlalles How would you hide the App key in a secure way? without having a backend server....

alexlalles•11/27/25, 2:12 PM

and for the Playfab part, I'm referring to cloud scripts via Revisions (legacy). its the most secure way i found without having a backend server.

Aalexlalles and for the Playfab part, I'm referring to cloud scripts via Revisions (legacy)....

MechabitOP•11/27/25, 2:22 PM

sounds fine