testing it now it's like 50/50 if it works or not
testing it now it's like 50/50 if it works or not
MCan you send this to me in a blank Unity project? I’ll pass it onto the team
AIf I want to move to the Normcore 3 40-player lobbies, will that likely tank my framerate?
We're considering ditching quest 2 immediately when Normcore 3 comes out, given that we're struggling to keep up the framerate on that headset already.
We're considering ditching quest 2 immediately when Normcore 3 comes out, given that we're struggling to keep up the framerate on that headset already.
MIt really depends on how expensive your avatars are. If you put 40 of them in a typical scene, are you able to make framerate?
Awill test. No CPU considerations?
Mdepends on your avatars. some avatars use a ton of CPU, but CPU on the Normcore 3 side hasn't been the bottleneck
M40 avatars essentially 40x's the CPU/GPU work that your avatar uses currently which pushes a lot of folks over the edge before we even get to Normcore serialization work
Shay so im new to unity vr game development and wha trying multiplayer for the first time and i cant seem to progress until i do it im in dire need of some help im thinking of useing normcore iv been told its easy to use any and all help is highly appreciated thank you 
Myep, super easy to use 
Mif you can follow this color sync tutorial you've learnt every there is to know about normcore https://docs.normcore.io/guides/synchronizing-custom-data#realtime-components
In this guide, I’m going to walk you through how to synchronize custom data in your Unity application using custom realtime components.
MAlso this one for XR games https://docs.normcore.io/guides/xr-avatars-and-voice-chat
This guide walks you through adding avatars and voice chat to your XR application.
Mnote that the avatar shouldn't contain an xr rig which a lot of people forget when they start out
Mit looks like in your repro, you have "Clear Ownership When Sleeping" set on the RealtimeTransform, and there's a rigidbody. Our tests are showing that ownership is working but then it's getting instantly cleared because the Rigidbody is asleep.
Mthese are floating cubes though, they should only sleep when they hit the ground
Myou make need to wake them when you request ownership
Mok but it works as expected if you wait a bit and then request ownership without using wake up
Mseems inconsistent
MI expect it may have something to do with FixedUpdate getting to run once for the Rigidbody before you RequestOwnership, but I’ll have our team take a closer look
Mcould also be fixed with a request ownership on fresh model option someone else suggested
MI don’t think I understand that piece, how does that fix the timing issue you’re seeing?
Mif the RT were owned by the first person in the room then I wouldn't need to request ownership myself
CYeah I thought I remember discussing this a while back and it was being considered to be put in. We currently jump through various hoops to fix this as well since we always have tons of RB in play
MI was wrong and we found a bug related to your repro. thank you again for putting that together. It took us a bit to repro the issue, but we're working on a fix for you
SHi! I’m new to Unity and new to networking in general, and I chose Normcore because I’ve heard it’s great for VR. I’m still struggling to understand parts of the documentation, so I’m hoping someone can point me in the right direction or help me understand how to structure this system.
Here’s what I’m trying to build:
When the player launches the game, they first spawn in an offline “Home World.” From here there are two UI buttons:
• The game should look for available public rooms.
• A room is available if:
• It exists
• It has at least 1 player
• It has less than 8 players
• Rooms with 0 players should automatically disappear / not be considered.
• If an available room is found → join it.
• If no available rooms exist (none created, all full, no players online, etc.) → create a new public room.
• Every room has a unique 6-digit code so other players can join the same room later.
Join By Code
• Clicking this opens a VR keyboard.
• The player types a 6-digit code (example: 123456).
• If a room with that code exists and has less than 8 players, join it.
• If the room exists but is full → show an error (“Max capacity reached”).
• If the room doesn’t exist → create it private/public (whichever Normcore requires) using that exact code.
I’m extremely new to all this and am a solo developer. I’ve been struggling for weeks trying to set up things like fusion and pun but finally figured out that this is actually a much better solution. However I’m still highly confused and any and all help is highly appreciated
Here’s what I’m trying to build:
When the player launches the game, they first spawn in an offline “Home World.” From here there are two UI buttons:
- Join Random Public
- Join By Code
• The game should look for available public rooms.
• A room is available if:
• It exists
• It has at least 1 player
• It has less than 8 players
• Rooms with 0 players should automatically disappear / not be considered.
• If an available room is found → join it.
• If no available rooms exist (none created, all full, no players online, etc.) → create a new public room.
• Every room has a unique 6-digit code so other players can join the same room later.
Join By Code
• Clicking this opens a VR keyboard.
• The player types a 6-digit code (example: 123456).
• If a room with that code exists and has less than 8 players, join it.
• If the room exists but is full → show an error (“Max capacity reached”).
• If the room doesn’t exist → create it private/public (whichever Normcore requires) using that exact code.
I’m extremely new to all this and am a solo developer. I’ve been struggling for weeks trying to set up things like fusion and pun but finally figured out that this is actually a much better solution. However I’m still highly confused and any and all help is highly appreciated
SAnd yes, I did use ChatGPT to make this a little bit easier to understand
MRandom public isn't something that's built in, yet
Myou'll have to use a lobby system like unity lobby for that
SThanks for the input although I don’t have the slightest idea of what you’re talking about any sort of basic coding I can handle but networking and multiplayer is just voodoo magic for me. This is my first game so I’ve never used it before and I have literally zero reference, I’ve been struggling with this for weeks now trying to find different solutions until about five days ago when I found this
Mmight be a bit advanced then
Mjust start with basic join codes you share on messaging apps
Munity has a game lobby sample project here https://docs.unity.com/ugs/en-us/manual/lobby/manual/game-lobby-sample
Mbut honestly it's overly complicated
Myou can wait for a normcore solution but there's no date for that
SDude, you’re actually amazing. Thank you so much man still have no idea what I’m doing, but thank you for putting in the time in effort to help.
SAlso, one more thing I think the best way to do this would be to make it in chunks building off of that each time so for example, the first thing I would want to do is literally just have it so when I start the game, it will connect me to a room with another player
AHow would you hide the App key in a secure way? without having a backend server. I noticed that the Appkey is often quite vulnerable to rip. Its just a real time component with a app key attached to it. So i was thinking of using tempTokens via Playfab, but its quite complicated. So any other work-arounds to protect it? I plan on having the game on Steam VR. Thanks.
Aand for the Playfab part, I'm referring to cloud scripts via Revisions (legacy). its the most secure way i found without having a backend server.
Msounds fine
M@Soggywater could be worth looking at our GorillaTemplate. It has room codes and things already: https://github.com/NormalVR/GorillaTemplate
GitHub
Everything you need to make your own multiplayer VR game - NormalVR/GorillaTemplate
Mwhich version of Normcore are you on? we strip it from the scriptable object in builds and encrypt it
SWhat do you mean which version?
SAlso, yeah, I do think I could benefit from using the template I might be able to Jerry rig it together with what I’m trying to do however it’s not a gorilla tag type of game so we’ll see how that works out
Aah gotcha, my mistake then. I'm on Normcore 2. I wasn't sure if that happens or not. Thanks
Sany news on easysync?
Sbeen waiting for its release cus i hateeeeee making realtimemodels
Myou can just make a set of basic models and reuse them everywhere
Mit’s coming out with Normcore 3, which we’re planning to announce before the end of the year.
MI keep trying to cram a few small things into the release and I’ve been so slow to write all of the docs
Mbut we’re very close I promise
NI’m hyped for the full lobby system whenever that comes out even if it’s a year or two out
MWe’ll have a basic version in the Normcore 3 release, and a full featured version coming next year.